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Genesis World Energy
Feedback
We are not familiar with any of the principal players at GWE that we know
of. We are in process of seeking to determine the legitimacy of their claims. Your
feedback to validate or contradict their claims is appreciated.
On Advisement
From: "aq093" <aq093@freenet.carleton.ca>
Cc: ... "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>...
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Genesis HICEF (Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engine Fuel) Technology:60-day
period effective May 1- June 30, 2003
Re:"Do you believe this stuff?"
Not necessarily [...]
Apparently, there's more to chemistry than the conventional stuff we got in high school. There may
be more than one way to break apart the hydroxyl bonds of water, yielding, as some have claimed,
atomic hydrogenm and atomic oxyxgen, instead of the regular molecular stuff. I'm not promoting the
gCell stuff mainly because I have neither witnessed its performance, nor understand the chemistry
of water well enough to make a pro or con decision.
I assume that those buying into the Genesis system have done their homework and, if they are
partners in their project, at least have seen the generator operating and have examined its
innards to see if there's any trickery. That's what a bunch of us intend to do with the Hutchison
energy Cells when we get 'em, *before* we say "aye" or "nay". And then we'd do
proper testing for specs after that, and report back to the inventor, *and* our associates too.
But yes, I've read up on the Genesis stuff, and take it on advisement only. Some of my Internet
associates, though, believe in it, and are proceeding to become investors.
Hal Ade
Ottawa.
To a Bright Future!
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:42 PM
Subject: Genesis World Energy
Thought you'd like to know about this.
[http://www.genesisworldenergy.org/genesis_world_energy.htm]
Here's to a bright future!
Peter
[http://www.free-energy.cc/]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Permission Request: Re: Genesis World Energy
Sterling,
I hope our telephone conversation cleared up all of these questions
for you, but in case it didn't, I will answer your questions again here.
I do not know anything about this group, other than what is posted
on their website. I have not witnessed their technology. I do not know anyone who
has. I do not know if the information is "trustworthy". I am NOT a member
of this group. [...]
Best wishes,
Peter
They May Be on to Something
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Mike, how does this compare? Fw: Hydrogen Home Power Unit Market Ready
Nice web page, I think they may be on to something. I am not sure if
they are for real, but then again who can tell. Only time will tell. ...
Technology May Have Been Lifted
"They May have lifted their technology from Timothy Thrapp of World
Improvement Technologies. Hopefully he will not sue. I don't think he will."
-- name withheld
I've Done it Too; Still, Be Cautious
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Home Power Unit Market Ready; Tilley Update
Sterling,
I have come across a number of ways of capturing aetheric
energy from the molecular processes involving water or its constituents.
The first way is to excite the water molecules at a resonant
frequency ( around 43,000 Hz). This will break the molecular bonds for relatively
little energy expenditure. You can then recombine the resultant gasses by spark
ignition for a much larger energy release. This is how a scheme for running a
car on water can work.
A second way is to pass molecular hydrogen at low pressure over a
heated tungsten wire (or through a tungsten electric arc). The hydrogen disassociates into
atomic hydrogen and absorbs a lot of energy in the process (the temperature drops).
However, the recombination of atomic hydrogen (by burning) to molecular hydrogen releases much
more energy (the temperature rises) than the dissociation. This is the process used in
atomic hydrogen welding torches. The molecular processes are described by William Lyne in
his book "Occult Ether Physics".
It is quite possible that the Hydrogen Home Power Unit could work as
advertised. But it could also be a scam. Do they provide any technical
disclosures? Are there any independent technical reports? If it is genuine, is big
brother really going to let it be advertised in such a public fashion?
Trevor S.
Looks Promising
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Tilley Update, etc......
Sterling:
The Genesis World Energy project looks promising...........if it's
legit.. Their marketing/licensing approach makes the most sense. License
it first to companies impacted most by the technology. Makes the opposition more receptive
to change. Time will tell...
Best Regards,
Richard Johnson
Power-Tec Systems
Check it Out -- Cautiously
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:42 AM
Subject: Genesis World Energy - Press Room
...Did you all see the item below?
[http://www.genesisworldenergy.com/pressroom.htm]
All those involved with excess energy from hydrogen may want to peruse this page from Genesis
World Energy. No doubt it's of concern to everyone engaged in some way in accessing
low-or-*no*-cost electricity and heat. Contemplate the prospect of no more purchases of energy,
especially for those in economic hardship.
I do have one problem with the page below, and it is this statement:
"According to Nejhla Shaw, World Energy Management President, 'We will make Edison Devices
rapidly available to governments and industries on a worldwide basis...'"
It gives me the impression that ordinary households would not be able to purchase these devices,
at least at an affordable cost, given an apparent limit to "governments and industries".
Would Genesis therefore expect the rank-and-file to remain connected and beholden to the Grid for
its electricity?
It also appears to contradict this aforementioned
statement:
"the power source can be quickly and easily installed
in any home or business to provide virtually unlimited
energy from any available water source. The Edison
Device utilizes the existing electrical wiring and
natural gas plumbing in a home".
Note that "home" is mentioned twice, so I'm not sure
what the real intentions of Genesis are.
Hal Ade
Member, Planetary Association for Clean Energy
[http://pacenet.homestead.com/]
Chair, "Keep Electricity Public", Ottawa, ON
Member, Electric Vehicle Council of Ottawa.
Wait and See
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002
From: Matthew Zenkar <wiyo@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Home Power Unit Market Ready; Tilley Update
--- In free_energy@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@g...>
wrote:
> I would be interested to get feedback on the Genesis World Energy project: contact
information, validations, contradictions. If these people are legit, they are accomplishing the
long-sought objective of bringing free energy technology into the market place. Congratulations to
them!
Personally, I would look for publications in scientific journals. Obviously publication does
not necessarily indicate success, however, if the process were published in such a journal, I
think it would add some credibility to their claims.
The other tact I would take is to wait for a device to appear on the market.
All the best, Matthew
I'll Check Them Out and Get Back With You
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Home Power Unit Market Ready; Tilley Update
Hello, Sterling ...
As I said in my previous mail, I am very interested also in this Genesis development. I'll try
to contact you after I have a discussion with them....
All the best, Hugh
They're Located Near Here; I'll Check Them Out
From: ***
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Home Power Unit Market Ready; Tilley Update
I will try and check these guys out when I get some time since they are here in Boise.
Skeptical But Open
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [free_energy] Hydrogen Home Power Unit Market Ready; Tilley Update
the Genesis people [I've only known of them for a month or two]
never responded to me. That claim is a very old one, all the others have been scams.
As I explained to them nicely, "given the long criminal history of claims just like yours,
I would think if you are legit, it would do you a lot of good to get credibility from passing my
free energy test and get the $10,000 prize". It bugs me that paid FE
promoters like *** make it sound like free energy devices are everywhere and won't openly admit
that most all the claimants are just crooks preying on the very people who want to help improve
the world.
See also
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