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You are here: GreaterThings.com > News > Free Energy > Directory > Magnetic Motors > Mikell > Danger

"WARNING":
Mikell's Magnetic Motor -- Doughnut Design

Go figure.  Same email address that announced working device now says it doesn't work, and demands the page be taken down, and urges people to not waste their time and money. "You don't know what you're dealing with."

Me thinkest thou protesteth too much.

Original Message:

Message 1: Don't Build It; It Doesn't Work; You Don't Know What You're Dealing With

Note: javelinnn braun's email address is the same as who presented the original message announcing the working magnetic motor.

Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:56 PM
Subject: FreeEnergy.GreaterThings.com Contact

Gentlemen

I am Hanz von Braun. After member included this "Mikell" motor on my site at VonBraunPhysics I understood that what you gentlemen have stumbled upon is my brother's son Mikel. He originated his "donut unit" from research that we were doing at a lab in New Mexico. His father, Mikell Sr. is on the team that I work on in the same lab only a different department. Until now I had no Idea that he had gone as far as sharing his discoveries with you or anyone else for that matter. I would appreciate it if you would erase any and all traces of this discovery as it is under the exclusive rights of the U.S. Government. You see for yourself that it doesn't work as your materiel mentioned and I would caution you not to experiment with it any further as you may not know what you are dealing with. For now just trust me and erase all material pertaining to the Helix Rotary and all records of its ex

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Hanz von Braun


Message 2: Please Take it Down

Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: FreeEnergy.GreaterThings.com Contact

Sterling

I am Hanz Braun and I wrote you asking that you delete any and all records pertaining to the Helix Rotary or what is now popularly called the "Donut Unit" or the "Mikell Motor". It is right protected and is a product of the US Government research and development project. This device doesn't work anyway and please stop your members from trying to build one as it is a waste of time and may involve some National Security issues not because it works but because the device is labeled "U.S. Navy Property". It is a device that was tried and didn't work and had dangerous side effects. Do you really want to place your members or visitors to your site at risk of harm? The device is faulty.

I ask you to please delete any trace of the project on your site as it is misleading and doesn't work.

I would so greatly appreciate your cooperation in this matter.

Thank you again.

VonBraunPhyiscs


IP Trace Says its the Same Person

copied from
http://groups.msn.com/VonBraunPhysics/general.msnw?
action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=393

From: "Mark" <mwiseman1@cox.net>
Cc: "'Sterling D. Allan'" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 12:47 AM
Subject: RE: [minatowheel] Digest Number 193

WE MIGHT BE DEALING WITH A CREATIVE YOUNGSTER.  Yes, Mikell's eMail
header information show clearly it is the same eMail sender as the "Hanz
von Braun" eMail.  This same eMail address is all over Mikell discussion
boards, so this guy is giving us a wild goose chase, perpetuating his
own fantasy.  I was unable to reverse lookup the eMail address, so
Mikell is using his MSN hotmail account exclusively for this goose
chase.

If it Doesn't Work, Why are you so Adamant?

From: VonBraun  in response to Message 5 Sent: 1/25/2004 11:21 AM
Starraider
 
You posted:
 
 
VonBraun,
so what you're saying is that your brother is a lousy father and raised a lying son who goes on the Net to lie to, and deceive others, about his made-up magnet motor?
What a horrible thing to say. Of course not. What I'm saying is that Jr has respect for his father and wants to be like him and does do things that his father does. Jr knows better than to share anything with others unless approved and he did breach this protocol of sharing because he did experience some success but take my word for it that it is a waste of time that it doesn't work exactly like he said it does. Mikell Jr has an active imagination as all boys have und I expect you to realize this ost obvious trait of der youth.
 
 And what's that nonsense about "the Helix Rotary is a product of the US Government and can not be copied or replicated in any way"? Just about everyone knows that even if the government had the thing patented, that doesn't prevent anyone from replicating it, only from selling it. Plus if it doesn't work (your words), why should you, or the government care if anyone replicates it?
You  don't understand, this device was not meant for the general public to experiment with. For the sake of arguement, IF this device worked like Mikell claimed then the public would be playing with something very dangerous. Again, not saying that the device even works just that IF if did. The Govt wouldn't hardly allow for what could potentially hurt the public so we can see here that the US Govt has safty in mind. In addition to this the Helix originated in our lab and not by Jr and we feel that this creation should not have been shared with the genereal public as it has because this can concievablly fall into the "public domain" catagory. We are thankful though that the device showed some difficultie early on and the concept was abanded alltogether and alot of money was not wasted on it. Why should you not replicate it? Because you will waste your money and time. Just forget it even allegedly existed and you'll be ahead of the game my friend. Trust me it doesn't work!
 
And why caution everyone to erase any trace of this device, if it DOESN'T WORK? That doesn't make much sense.
We don't want anyone to waste their time and money and effort on a boyish one time wonder. Mikell Jr had some preliminary success with his version but it was short lived and then he realized that it didn't really work after all so he quitt trying. You would be better off experimenting with other more proven devices like the Tommy Device. There are many devices that really do work and that are not Govt protected. Since the Helix is a non-functional unit why would you want to even fool with it? Erase all traces of the device is complying with Govt guidelines that prevent potential harm to the public and the Helix does have nasty side effects that can harm someone which is why Alomas labs stopped the project; it didn't work correctly, was a waste of money and had bad side effects and is Govt protected. These are very good reasons to stop any effort on the device.
 
Your explanation is so full of contradictions, that I'd rather believe Mikell about his magnet motor. His story is much more believable, because he doesn't contradict himself.
I'm not contradicting myself. I just want you to know that the device is not worth your effort and is potentially dangerous. Would you allow your friend to play with open leads containing 10,000 volts? No. The Helix is not worth your efforts. I read the sites you included and they seem to think that it is worth it. I found that many had actually built some models that were maybe half right. You see this is getting out of hand und if someone builds one that is correct they will wind up getting harmed.
 
The US Govt can stop anyone attempting to replicate any device it or one of its subsideraries have developed. The Helix falls directly into this catagory. They have already been alerted to this situation and I'm sure they are poised to take the appropriate actions. So again just erase all traces and records of the device to be within legal compliance of US right protected guidlines. This entire mess was our incompetence and the leak happened as a relsult of family members indirectly becomming involved with it.
 
Since it doesn't work anyway just let it go. Look in my "archive of suppressed technology" thread and you can have many good devices that really do work well and that is not a waste of your time.
 
Sorry for the mess but Mikell Jr was just wanting to be "one of the guys" and he has been spoken to about any further sharing in the future. He has apologized and we all need to move on.
 
Thank you for understanding.

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Page posted by SDA, Sept 24, 2003
Last updated October 27, 2005

 

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